Madrid bombing

[AdamR1978]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3500452.stm

I can't believe this. Why must people do such things to each other, can we not live in peace?

[jseal]

AdamR1978,

The Basques are an ethnic group, who, like the Kurds in Turkey and Iraq, and the Shia Muslim minority throughout the Middle East, see themselves as suppressed, and who believe that they have been deprived of the separate identity to which they are entitled. They have a separate language and identity, and a rather long history of being ruled by others.

A similar argument could be advanced for some ethnic minorities here in the U.S., at least until the Civil Rights legislation was enacted a few years ago.

I don’t offer this as a justification for killing innocents; I am merely trying to illuminate the context within which otherwise inexplicable behavior occurs.

[skipthisone]

I read stuff like this in the world everyday and people wonder why I have no hope for the next generation. The world will be no place to live.

[LixyChick]

Things like this have been going on since way before our grandparents and their parents were born...skip. When one problem is solved, another arises somewhere else.....and it'll continue well after we are gone. It's a sad state of affairs.....but the best part is that there is always good things happening SOMEWHERE!!!

[osuche]

I am often cynical as well...but then I think that I turned out "OK" (a bit perverted, but Ok) ~~ so maybe there is hope for us to raise a new generation of kids with the right values and mores.

[lakritze]

The Basques state,They did not do this terrible thing.

[dicksbro]

I just keep hoping that someday, somehow people will learn to live in peace. Maybe it won't happen, but heaven forbid we reach a time when we really do give up that hope.

[jseal]

Gentlefolk,

The evidence so far is ambiguous, and could point to either the Basque separatist group ETA or Islamic militants.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3501364.stm

[Catch22]

It is our Arab friend. ETA were trained by the IRA and use car bombs as their main weapon.

[PantyFanatic]

200 dead humans in Spain.

1,000 mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, husbands and wives that cry a TURE sorrow.

6,353,850,829 of a species with embedded malignancy.

1 specie that is a temporary mutation in the evolution of the universe, a corruption to a planet and a hazard to itself.



Wave the banner of any intellect, nationalism, religion, political, social or any other cause or conviction you have and go for it. It’s all we are, will have, or can be.:(

[Vigil]

Well - I was there last week. It is frightening and a warning to us all that what seems so completely ordinary one day can be the scene of an atrocity the next.

It really is unbelievable and I agree with PF. Personally it strengthens my support for action against the very small number of misguided souls who think that this is any kind of way to live their lives.

Only a minority of Basques want an independent state and a minority within this minority support ETA, and a minority within this minority believe terrorism is a useful and justifiable tool. Of course though the attack seems a departure from their MO and we will wait to see, though I imagine we will never really know, not that it matters now in many ways.

[Catch22]

An Islamic group tied to al-Qaeda has claimed responsibility in an unverifiable e-mail.

[bordendazed]

It's crap like this that makes me embarassed to be human.

I am still 'affected' bt the senslessness of the September 11 tragedy.

Even from a purely animalistic sense it makes no sense - there's no food, mate or territory to be gained by wanton killing. like this.

"We have seen the enemy and it is us"

[SexKitten]

I still have a sense of disbelief about 9/11. I can remember it like it was yesterday but I am not sure I can actually believe it happened yet. I hope to be able to visit NYC again in the next few years (I went in march 01) and visit the site, I think then it will really be true to me.

As for spain, it does seem a bit big for eta, but I will be waiting to see who the investigators blame it on.

[dicksbro]

Madrid, 9/11 and all the other acts of terror we've seen are horrible. How can humans do such a thing to other humans? But, what's really scary is that each new incidence of violence breeds more violence and heaven forbid what it all leads to. :(

[Catch22]

A lot of dead people DB. Such is the nature of war now that the front lines are office blocks and the train to work.

[jseal]

Catch22,

I see that as one of the more regrettable developments of the 20th century. Before WWI, acts of war uniformly occurred between soldiers.

Comments? Disagreements?

[Catch22]

Indeed most of the world hot spots are the result of borders being made after WW1. With no regard for the arangement of tribal or ethnic borders. I saw on the news the other night the US army are testing ideas for rebot and unmaned tanks.

[Steph]

I'm dating a Spanish guy right now. He's proud that his countrymen are marching, holding protests and have just voted the Socialists in.

What a horrific event. :(

[jseal]

Catch22,

You may be entertained with the results.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3512270.stm

There’s still a few bugs in the system.

[jseal]

Steph,

Absolutely!

Freedom of association and democracy are institutions of which all Spaniards can be proud.