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Aqua 03-13-2006 03:37 AM

I don't feel so good today. I had no breakfast (unusual for me), a couple Dews (normal for a Sunday), a granola bar, a package of Grandma's chocolate/chocolate chip cookies, a package of pop-tarts, and then I also had a large chocolate milkshake, a Sourdough Jack hamburger, and a large fry for dinner. Add the stress of the today's workday to that and BAM!... unhappy Aqua tummy. :(

Lilith 03-13-2006 05:17 AM

I ate out too much thise week and made poor choices I had a gain :(

Aqua 03-13-2006 05:32 AM

(((Lil)))
No time like the present to get back on track.

You can do it!

maddy 03-13-2006 06:21 AM

I've been happy dancin' all weekend. I finally broke through the 20lb loss mark - I've been skirting on the edges of it for 2+ weeks and it's been highly frustrating. I also broke through a "decade" at the same time. I had a "good" loss this week of 3lbs, it makes up for the frustration of the past two weeks.

I'm not sure what my problem was yesterday - most of the day I was incredibly hungry (stomach growling and pains) but couldn't pinpoint what it was that I wanted. Everytime I went to the kitchen to find something to eat nothing looked appealling. I finally got my appetite back at dinnertime and ate like a pig.

Aqua 03-13-2006 06:32 AM

Yay Maddy! Excellent progress!!

osuche 03-13-2006 11:11 AM

Congrats, maddy! That's awesome. ((((maddy))))

Lil, you've had a lot of stress lately. Please don't beat yourself up about it. Today is a new day.

((((Aqua)))) looks like you had a long hard night. I can understand wanting some Dew....and a few Tums too. :D


As for me.....I've eaten like a pig since Thursday, but I tried to correct it yesterday and finally got back into my range. I tried a new pilates workout CD last night too, and I think it gave me a decent workout.

I am still net down 7 lbs, which is OK but nothing like you guys...but I have managed to keep the couple of pounds I lost while I was sick off. Also, I should have LOTS of water weight gain by now (2 days before my period) and the scale is holding firm. Who knows?

I am still med free, and I've been working on my stress level. My Dr has been yelling at me about my blood pressure, and I'm going to see what diet, exercise, and stress management will do to help.

I took Saturday afternoon and all of Sunday off and didn't do a damn bit of work or homework. I *did* clean house, cook, and shop....but I did nothing that would have made me stressed or obsessive about my responsibilities. And you know what? I'm not stressed. Mission accomplished. :D

IAKaraokeGirl 03-13-2006 11:20 AM

I've missed you guys, but it sounds as if you ALL have been busy.

Congrats, of course, to maddy--that is soooooooooo awesome!

Lil...look at it this way--last week is going to trick your metabolism into speeding up. You cut down this week, and it's still going to burn at a higher level. ;)

osuche~Let me know about that stress thing, will ya? Seems like I could probably use some advice. :)

fzzy~We all seem to be in the same "time range" as far as commitment, and I, too, am amazed sometimes that I've stuck with my regimen thus far. Support groups--online or otherwise--are wonderful!


As for me...Friday's weigh-in was as I suspected it might be. I showed neither a loss nor a gain for the week, despite being active 4 of the 7 days and staying within my point range. However, Saturday morning I entered the Hut...and peeking at the scale since, I'm down 3+ lbs. since Friday's weigh-in. Looking at my chart, I realize that I followed the same pattern *last* month, so I guess I'm going to have to stop obsessing nearly as much and realize that one week of the month my reading is going to be "off." Regardless, if the scales continue as they are, this Friday (or more likely next Friday) I'll pass the 20.0+ lb. lost mark myself AND I'll be in a new "decade." I may drop over in a dead faint when that happens. :D

maddy 03-13-2006 06:49 PM

Hi IAKG - good to see you here again :)

Stress! Let me tell you something about that - it's a huge waste of energy! Looking back I think it's some of what held back my progress in the two weeks prior. I have been trying to make improvements to my stress level as part of my overall lifestyle change. I know stress doesn't do a darn bit of good for me physically, emotionally or mentally. Don't get me wrong I thrive on it and do well under pressure - but the excesses of stress and pressure I was under were not worth it.

Lucky for me I'm slowly finding things to occupy my time and some are still food related. I'm finding the joy of cooking. I spend enough time in my kitchen on the weekends making my meals for the week but I enjoy it. It's not a chore to me. And at least it's not baking brownies :eek:.

maddy 03-13-2006 08:51 PM

I just did my treadmill thing... I got in 2.6 miles and am feeling good. My new routine that I'm trying for awhile is to do the treadmill every other day.

Something I read on WW this weekend that might help some of you with your weight loss and understanding what is "realistic" - a slow and steady sustainable weight loss is about 10% every three months. For example: if you start at 200, losing the first 20 should take about 3 months, the next 18, should take an additional 3 months, etc. This put some things in perspective for me. Now I know that this is going to be a looooooong journey for me and I can set goals that are hopefully realistic.

fzzy 03-14-2006 02:39 AM

Good job maddy ... and I know what you mean about it being a looooong journey!

IAKG glad to see you back ... I think you actually have a few extra days on me ... plus that time that you were losing even before you joined WW ... glad your scale is being a bit more friendly this week!

Aqua ... sorry you weren't feeling so great earlier, hope things have improved a lot since then for you.

Lil ... it's a new week ... I have my days when I know I could do so much better, but then I remember how bad I was before deciding to make these changes ... it puts it all back in perspective for me ... some changes come in stages ... heaven knows .. I've had 40+ years of getting myself into the good stages ... and to be truthful, I'm never certain that tomorrow will find me still making better choices ... I just have toooooo much history of not making the good choices to feel any kind of confidence beyond a few hours or so ahead. But we only fail if we don't keep trying. Glad you're still trying with the rest of us!

I've ended my day nudging at the high end of my calorie range ... discovered Pringles 100 calorie snack packs and ate a couple more than 1 ... ooops ... now they are a farther distance from my usual sitting spot and hopefully they won't be a problem again ... I also found 90 calorie individual bags of marshmallows ... I bought some, figured if I have a massive craving then I can have those ... I like marshmallow, but it's not one of those foods that I ever eat a lot of in one sitting, so it's a fairly safe option for me. Anyway, off to bed now ... hope everyone has a great day tomorrow!

osuche 03-14-2006 11:39 AM

fzzy....I've tried marshmallows and the semi-sweet chocolate chips. Both seem to satisfy the sweet craving for me. And sometimes you just gotta have it. :)

As for me....I was BAD yesterday. I was well within my range after lunch (about 100 calories total for the day) and went to the gym for a good long workout. Then w ehad a cookout at our place and I had *two* bratwurst and dessert and some wine. I ended way over my range (about 2700 calories, to be exact) but I did have fun. The party was a success.

IAKaraokeGirl 03-14-2006 09:50 PM

osuche, one tough day does not make a failure out of you, as you know. You relaxed, you had a good time...and, chances are, you won't be duplicating that scenario anytime soon, anyway. ((osuche))

fzzy, we're all learning in this--about making better choices, and more about ourselves. It seems like you already know some positive steps to take to lessen the temptation. That's admirable, trust me.

maddy, I think the every-other-day treadmill thing will work just fine for you. I know I have to do some creative arranging of my schedule to get in my 3-4 days a week at the gym--and two of those usually come on the weekends. Still, the fact that you're more active--period--is an achievement on its own.

As for me, and speaking of cravings...I gave into one tonight. I let my children talk me into going to KFC for dinner. :D I was only up to 13 points of my 22 for the day before, and I calculated as I was eating (and verified after getting home tonight) that I consumed an additional 15 at the restaurant. BUT, I did 4 miles on the treadmill tonight, and that, combined with some other physical stuff I did today, brings me back down to my 22 points--no flex points used. It doesn't sound like something big, but to me it is. Yay for me. :)

fzzy 03-15-2006 02:44 AM

Way to be IAKG ... congrats on your day!

osuche, I agree with IAKG .. it was an event, sometimes they come at us without much warning, life is meant to be lived .... in the midst of it all we try to make the best choices for that moment, sometimes that means some endulgences, because it's the best choice for that moment!

I've made it through another day and feel good about it ... this time I wasn't quite so close to the top of my calorie range, more toward the middle, so I'm happy about that. heading off to bed soon.

WildIrish 03-15-2006 09:37 AM

I think enough time has passed to get a real answer to this.

In what ways do you feel different regarding your changes? We've heard of physical impacts (loose jeans, increased endurance, and I'm still in awe of fzzy's seatbelt achievement), and the emotional impacts (hitting the "I haven't weighed this amount in ten years", satisfaction from overcoming temptations, and again...the seatbelt). And there have been countless other thoughts. But have you had the thought that you truly have turned another page? That you see/feel/think something that made you say "This is working, and I am doing it!"?

I call it the "aha" moment. That moment when the lightbulb goes on over your head. When you realize something and say "aha".

Has the aha hit you?

IAKaraokeGirl 03-15-2006 10:18 AM

Hmmmmmm...I'm not totally sure I understand the question, but I'll try to respond.

Of course I'm thrilled about dropping clothing sizes and compliments from those around me. But maybe the "Aha!" for me is two-fold. First of all, I think a huge eye-opener for me has been my dedication to physical activity--and the fact that I make it a *priority* now. I push myself every day to do a little more than I did the previous day, and I am disappointed when things don't work out and I can't make it to the gym. Three months ago, I'd have never believed that I would sustain motivation for physical activity, or that I'd *enjoy it.*

Secondly, I've just seen an amazing reflection of my better diet choices/that physical activity in my blood sugars. I find that I'm looking for "better" food when I go out to eat or when I'm grocery shopping, and I'm doing it without even thinking about it. It's becoming second-nature--and I've found that I really, honestly, don't miss certain things. From time to time, I'll allow myself a little treat, but even then it's not an urge--more like a reward.

Those two things in particular show me that I've accepted this as a lifestyle change and not something simply designed to get me to a certain weight before allowing myself unabandoned freedom. The fact that they're natural to me now--and something I consider important--only confirms that.

maddy 03-15-2006 05:42 PM

I had a nice long reply typed HERE then poof... I'll have to think all over again.

fzzy 03-15-2006 06:06 PM

LOL at the seatbelt thing ... although I have to say, there is still a part of me that wonders just as I'm about to put it on every night and morning ... "has this just been a fluke, will it still really fit?" gratefully, it not only continues to fit, but now there is a bit of give in it as well.

At 47+ yrs of age, and no time in my past having stuck to a healthy lifestyle plan for this long (as far as I can remember anyway - and certainly not without having some major cheating happening during the time), I'm amazed that I'm still doing it .... and that it continues to be easier than it ever has been before for me ... other than those couple of pre-hut days, I've not even had any CRAVINGS since the first or second week .... I crave things sometimes, but the cravings have been easily re-directed.

However, after so many years of living NOT healthy lifestyle, I'm still doing the one day at a time thing ... though for the most part, I'm past the one or two hours at a time ... that's progress ... and like IAKG I'm finding that I'm able to make healthier choices more easily, which is a good thing, because the weight I'd like to lose will ultimately take me at least 16-24 months or more. But I do feel like I'm making progress toward becoming a truly more health conscious thinker and do-er.

Aqua 03-15-2006 06:17 PM

As far as seatbelts go, my only concern is getting the lap belt part positioned high enough to unzip my fly on those occasions I need 'relief' on the freeway. :p

maddy 03-15-2006 08:31 PM

Okay, let me try this aha thing again...

I've had a lot of little aha's, I'll list a few of them here:
- making it up two flights of stairs with a full large laundry basket and not being winded at the top.
- not occassionally slipping my back out of alignment with simple movements.
- being able to more comfortably cross my legs in that lady-like manner.
- having chocolate nearly every single day and seeing results anyway.
- walking through the cookie aisle at the store and not even being tempted.

For me the changes I've made in my life have not been exclusively about losing weight, but about making me a priority. This includes making sure I'm healthy, reducing my stress levels, doing things I enjoy, and making sure that my career is a part of my life rather than being my life.

I'm learning plenty in the process too - like I actually like vegetables and fruit and can manage to eat them with every single meal (not counting potatoes!).

fzzy 03-16-2006 03:27 AM

great question by the way WI ... it's always a good thing to reflect upon such things when trying to make improvements in our lives! I have enjoyed reading the responses and enjoyed thinking about my own response as well!

Time for bed for me now, but figured I better report in ... did pretty well today on calories, just over 1600 ... course that was mainly because I was doing errands, etc. after work so didn't get home until it was dinner time, then after dinner just didn't want to go to the bother of getting up to pull together an after dinner snack. That's probably a good thing for me to do! :)

IAKaraokeGirl 03-16-2006 06:18 AM

All right, I've decided that doing four miles on the treadmill one night and three miles the next is not conducive if I want to do something crazy, like live the next 30-40 years. I've also figured out that, while losing weight is GREAT, getting less calories burned for the same amount of exercise you did before when you were heavier SUCKS.


You may now return to your regular program. :D

osuche 03-16-2006 11:14 AM

I've been kinda bad this week, and yesterday was the first time I ended under 1900 calories. :( But it's pre-Hut week, and I've had a lot of stress at work...so who knows? I'm not beating myself up about it, and the scale isn't either. Funny, but I haven't even gained the water weight this week....so unless I'm really down 5 lbs, it's been a funny week altogether.

This morning I woke up in major pain -- first flare up I've had since off of the arthritis meds. I'm hoping I can make it through the day on ibuprofen. Of course, I have no choice. The meds I used to take build up in your system over a 2 week period and thus there is no "safety net" prescription alternative for me. Hopefully if I can make it through today I will be better tomorrow.

As for the aha's, most of which I discovered about 2.5 years ago during my stint of losing 55 lbs:
* Your health really is worth working hard for -- and it's like another job. You gotta put in the time in order to get positive feedback. No shortcuts.
* I -- little mis un-athletic -- LIKE the endorphin rush from going to the gym...and my reflexes and balance have been MUCH better since going to the gym. Some people even call me graceful now. :D
* Prescription meds are a choice, not a necessity for me....at least not right now.
* Stop living to eat. Next week you won't be able to remember what you ate today...so quit being so fixated on eating the "perfect" food.

And my biggest revelation:
* Damn I'm sexy! And I look good too. :D You laugh, but it's nice getting the wolf whistles on the street I hadn't gotten since college. ;)

WildIrish 03-16-2006 12:07 PM

I first learned of "the aha hitting you" in Algebra Two class, in high school. The teacher was a very old man that talked like he had swallowed broken glass and had a crush on Vanna White.

He told us one day, early in the class, that he doesn't enjoy math. He doesn't like having his summers off because when school starts back up...it's hard for him to be enthusiastic about coming back to work. He teaches for one reason. "The aha moment". He said "There is nothing more rewarding than seeing a person's face the moment the aha hits them. And teaching Algebra, the most abstract concept to comprehend, affords me that opportunity." Ever since then, I've been interested in knowing what people's aha moment is. Sorry if it's a dumb or irrelevent question, but I thought it would prove interesting, and also do some good to reflect back on how far everyone has come.

Lilith 03-16-2006 11:09 PM

I just watched the ABC PrimeTime on the theory of game therapy. The weightloss portion was very interesting. For those of you who did not see it they took 5 overweight people and photographed them in skimpy bathing suits and then told them to lose 15 pounds in 8 weeks or have the photos exposed on national television. 4/5 lost at least 15 some losing as much as 25. Amazing.

fzzy 03-17-2006 02:41 AM

Wow it's almost Friday again ... another day completed "successfully" ... almost at the top of my calorie range, but somedays are like that! :)

IAKaraokeGirl 03-17-2006 05:53 AM

Lil, that *is* fascinating, but not surprising, if you really think about it. I know it would motivate *me!*

fzzy, top of range or not, you're still where you want to be, right? And that's great!


As for me, it *is* Friday, which means it's weigh-in day. Now, I had that whole "Hut" thing in preparation last week, so I really don't think I lost it all in the last seven days, but this morning I'm down 4.5 lbs. from last Friday, 23.5 since 12-30, AND it puts me in a new "decade." I stood on the scale four consecutive times to make sure I really was seeing what I thought I was seeing--after I picked myself up off the floor, of course.

This puts me at basically the half-way mark of my ultimate goal, although, after figuring in my body type, I could get away with only losing 15 more. I can only figure that pushing myself at the gym this week and the extra activity I did was a huge, huge factor

Lilith 03-17-2006 07:14 AM

I am truly so happy for you. You made a decision to do something about you weight and you can see it's paying off. Grats!

osuche 03-17-2006 12:02 PM

I am back in the game with a vengence. I should start my period sometime this weekend...and as of this morning I am down another 2 lbs. WTF? I work like heck for 2 months and go to the gym 5 days a week....then I lose weight after I get sick and go to the gym less often??? I don't get it, but I am going wo keep doing what I'm doing now and hope the trend continues.

So what's different sice I got sick?
* No more arthritis meds
* No weight lifting at the gym...only cardio and less intensive cardio at that! (focusing on keeping my heart rate in range, not pushing my self as hard as possible)
* I eat when I want, snack thru the day
* I stay around 1900-2000 calories
* I take a 15 min walk in the middle of the morning to get some tea and take the stairs at work
* I am drinking a LOT of green tea and have eliminated coffee permanently from my diet (as of 2 weeks ago)

In 2 weeks I've lost about 7 lbs....after I'd regained some of my 2 month weight loss...I'm down 10 lbs net.

maddy 03-17-2006 12:21 PM

Great job IAKG and osuche.

I'm in pain these days ... I went down an exceedingly high number of stairs in heels the other day for our impromptu firedrill. My thighs are still aching and letting me know they were not happy about that activity. Unless something drastic happens before Monday (and the weekends have been good to me in the past), I won't have a loss on Monday's weigh in. I'll be getting back to my daily treadmill routine soon as I'm not sure taking a break is doing me a lick of good.

IAKaraokeGirl 03-17-2006 12:24 PM

Hopefully, maddy, your metabolism will still be kicking it from when you WERE on the treadmill last...and, regardless, a break while still watching your point intake won't be catastrophic.

osuche, sometimes it's best not to question but just accept. My zen of the day. :D

sassee 03-17-2006 02:20 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilith
I just watched the ABC PrimeTime on the theory of game therapy. The weightloss portion was very interesting. For those of you who did not see it they took 5 overweight people and photographed them in skimpy bathing suits and then told them to lose 15 pounds in 8 weeks or have the photos exposed on national television. 4/5 lost at least 15 some losing as much as 25. Amazing.


A local radio station actually did that here, and they threatened the people to lose the weight in a longer time span, I think, or else it would be posted on their website for everyone to see. It worked well even though some people quit it. Still, I think it's interesting too.

maddy 03-17-2006 05:06 PM

I lived in Texas when ^^^ said radio station ran that "contest" - I believe it was the morning show and one of the dj's was part of the "contest", right? And that same dj is now finally expecting a baby.

fzzy 03-18-2006 06:51 PM

Ended last night in the 1600-1700 range ... today, I've not been feeling very well, hopefully it will pass quickly!

IAKaraokeGirl 03-18-2006 06:58 PM

I hope you feel better soon, fzzy!

osuche 03-19-2006 11:11 AM

OK...I've been on the higher side of my calorie range for the past 2 days, but not doing *too* bad. I'm still drinking lots of green tea and doing the other stuff, in hopes that the new routine will continue to pay off. And I've felt better since the flare up on Wednesday -- I actually feel like a real person this morning, and the cold symptoms are reseding, too.

All of this, combined with a really beautiful sunny day today with NO RAIN (although it starts raining again tomorrow) give me hope. :)


fzzy, hope you feel better soon.....and maddy too!

fzzy 03-19-2006 02:13 PM

Yay osuche! Glad you are having a good day ... and thanks for your well wishes, they must have done the trick ... seems it was just a one day thing and other than feeling a little weak, I'm doing great ... the up side is that yesterday I had little appetite for most of the day so my calorie count was under 1600 ... that doesn't happen very often!!!

maddy, hope the legs are feeling better ... I know about that pain from several years ago ... when I was in better shape then I am anywhere near today ... we had 4 fire alarms in three days - 2 in one day and had to trapse down 11 flights of stairs each time, hate to say this, but when the 4th one rang, I stayed at my desk and waited for the announcement that it was a false alarm ... found out after the 3rd time that a new group had moved into the 8th floor and their smoke alarm had a hair (or rather popcorn) trigger. It took me days for my knees and thighs to feel ok again! :)

Lilith 03-19-2006 02:36 PM

11 flights????That's what they make firemen for :D to carry my fat ass down the stairs :D

maddy 03-19-2006 03:29 PM

My thighs finally feel better, I'm not wincing when I have to walk down the stairs at my condo.

I wore my gym pants when I went out shopping today and noticed that fresh out of the dryer they are too big (they are stretchy cotton). So I picked up a new pair of really cute nylon capri pants today - they have a bit of stretch to them. I quite like them :)

I also stocked up on some Kashi cereal and granola bars that were on sale - which meant I needed to clean in the kitchen. I came up with two shopping bags full of food that need to be donated as they are no longer part of my eating plan. I also cleaned out my coat closet today (it doesn't actually have any coats in it) and my next project is going to build shelves in half the closet so it can be part pantry.

IAKaraokeGirl 03-19-2006 03:44 PM

I'm envious of ^^^'s space. :) I also probably need to clean out the kitchen, too...in my case, I have it a LITTLE better, since I have two helpers who might eat the "bad" stuff. Regardless, maddy, I'm definitely glad to hear that you're not hurting as much.

As for me, I was still able to walk this morning after going to the gym twice yesterday, so I did what any insane woman would do--went again today. I did 3 miles on the treadmill and some ab crunches with this cool thing they have (I'm going to have to see if I can get one for home, 'cause I *really* like it)...and then decided to be ambitious and did 10 minutes on the elliptical. I KNOW that that machine was sent from hell to torture me. Of course, I had to do it in two, five-minute intervals, and STILL my heart was begging me for mercy. I am trying to keep in mind that, eventually, I'll build up my stamina, but it's frustrating, as I'm not a patient person.

maddy 03-19-2006 03:56 PM

A little rant I found on a blog this weekend that I think some of us (if not all of us) can relate to on some level ....Fuck You Scale


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