I totally agree with you, Loulabelle. The attitude you describe, particularly #1, is what I have felt with the whole thing, but could not put into words. You've articulated it beautifully--thank you. I think #2 is just an extroverted version of #1--bravado masking insecurity. I'll tell you I'm fat before you have a chance. Preemptive strike, as it were. I've done it myself.