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gekkogecko 06-07-2010 02:43 PM

Methane-based life?
 
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsys...an20100603.html

PantyFanatic 06-07-2010 04:05 PM

Only ego and dogma would allow us to believe we are the singular life form in the cosmos.

Lord Snow 06-07-2010 07:11 PM

It is my belief that we are not alone, yet to primitive for other life forms to bother with.

Oldfart 06-07-2010 08:46 PM

Anything trying to live at a couple of hundred degrees below zero would have to be living extremely slowly compared to us hotties.

Sci-Fi people may remember that Edward E (Doc) Smith created a cryogenic character in the form of Nadreck, one of the second stage Lensmen.

jseal 06-07-2010 09:00 PM

Back in the Golden Age of Sci-Fi. :)

Oldfart 06-07-2010 09:12 PM

When men were men and monsters were nervous.

PantyFanatic 06-07-2010 11:45 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldfart
Anything trying to live at a couple of hundred degrees below zero would have to be living extremely slowly compared to us hotties.....

We are certain that there are absolute limits where any life can exist, such as extremely high temperatures above 212F (100C), which is why we boil things to sterilize them, or in acidic environments like hydrogen sulfide or surely extreme hydrostatic pressure are inhospitable to any kind of life. :eek:

PantyFanatic 06-07-2010 11:49 PM

....Until 1991 ,:yikes: when like every enlightened teenager that knows everything worth knowing, we then found it right here on our own infinitesimal planet.

Perhaps not knowing what we don't know is what keeps us going just that little bit further.

Oldfart 06-08-2010 02:17 AM

They're called extremophiles, critters which live in extreme environments. "Meaningful" life is a series of processes which feeds an onboard computer and is self-replicating. Life may be over in a blink like a mayfly or in a geologic time-frame. Mother Gaia lives.

jseal 06-08-2010 04:58 AM

So the ‘take away’ is to not jump to conclusions.

Oldfart 06-08-2010 06:02 AM

Yep.

PantyFanatic 06-08-2010 09:57 AM

The 'absolute' concept has to be used like a gun. Very, VERY carefully!

gekkogecko 06-09-2010 11:03 AM

Are there absolutely no absolutes?

PantyFanatic 06-09-2010 11:24 AM

Only mathematics, and for us. Not the rest of the universe.

Lord Snow 06-09-2010 12:05 PM

Even in mathematics there are only some absolutes. Let us not forget the imaginary numbers. Though if you think about, aren't all numbers imaginary? And philosophically speaking are we imaginary? Could we possibly be this methane based life form's dream and not reality? Or would that dream be our reality? I think I just confused myself.

scotzoidman 06-09-2010 12:23 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Snow
Even in mathematics there are only some absolutes. Let us not forget the imaginary numbers. Though if you think about, aren't all numbers imaginary? And philosophically speaking are we imaginary? Could we possibly be this methane based life form's dream and not reality? Or would that dream be our reality? I think I just confused myself.

"What if all this is just an illusion, & nothing truly exists? If that's so, I definitely paid too much for my carpet..." - Woody Allen

Lord Snow 06-09-2010 01:07 PM

Scotz! You survived!

PantyFanatic 06-09-2010 03:48 PM

It's about time you peckerhead, Zoid. I want you to send my one of your dirty socks today!:mad:

jseal 06-09-2010 06:35 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Snow
Even in mathematics there are only some absolutes. Let us not forget the imaginary numbers. Though if you think about, aren't all numbers imaginary? And philosophically speaking are we imaginary? Could we possibly be this methane based life form's dream and not reality? Or would that dream be our reality? I think I just confused myself.

Is Time an Illusion?

PantyFanatic 06-09-2010 08:16 PM

Time is a dimension from our prospective.

Oldfart 06-09-2010 08:24 PM

The world is full of true absolutes like Pi, unity and the clarity of religious fundamentalism. Other "absolutes" like the value of 'g' at the Earth's surface, the value of the dollar and the universal application of Justice aren't.

Good to see you, Scotz, missed your input.


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