10-10-2005, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by moose
…..belive that they have gone a little over the top with banning smoking in some areas like they were talking about banning people from smoking in cars here when there was kids in the car (another dumb arse do gooders bright idead) …. the second thing is you may pay more tax but you suffer more medical problems from smoking so it would br fair to say you get a good part of that tax back
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I believe you are correct ‘MATE’, that the pendulum swings a bit far to the right sometime.  As for looking only at the $$ involved with treating medial issues, you could consider that smokers will be canceled out of the equation much earlier and may well consume less costs in the declining years than the nonproductive arses of the nonsmokers.
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Originally Posted by WildIrish
….Now before Lixy drives up here to beat me to death with a liberal dose of righteous indignation...remember this:……
…. If I have to walk past a smoking table, I don't wrinkle my nose in disgust from the smell. I'm a grown man, for crying out loud! I follow the waiter/tress to my table and sit down & eat. If I'm right next to a smoking area, I ask to be moved. It's my right. Notice how I'm saying "I ask to be moved." not "I ask they be moved.". That's not my right…..
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Your attitude is something that would be welcome by most smokers, WildIrish, and is one that would perhaps allow us to deal with a matter we are much less pleased about ourselves.
I’m pretty sure that the “liberal doses of righteous indignation” are seen to come TO the smoker rather than FROM them. This thread (and others on this topic) attest to the eagerness for the supercilious. I know that I have an innate reaction to arrogant, condescending, pompous, patronizing assholes that I’m working on dealing with in a better manner, but I do think the natural progression is for a target to first become defensive and then aggressive when threatened. It’s a natural human trait to elevate ourselves by promoting the transgressions of others, but I can tell you that the perception of persecution triggers a defensive reaction rather than one of cooperation.
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