At the risk of regreting this:

I was just expressing an opinion, not trying to set some kind of standard! This works for me, and has not caused any social problems for me.

These are Social definitions that I use daily, I am not a sex therapist or psychologist! Just a nurse with too damn much paperwork, and not enough real patient care...but that is another soap box for me!! *smile*

I am basing this on SEXUAL BEHAVIOR and DESIRE. (I believe that a woman who constantly daydreams about having sex with other women is engaging in a behavior even if she never acts on it)

I am partnered with another Woman in a long term relationship. Yes, it is an open relationship, but that is not the point. I have sex with men also. I LOVE sex with men. I also LOVE sex with other Women, and I love my partner, and can't dream of being without her love, companionship, and our lovely life together.

She is a self-described Lesbian, who was married for years, before we met. She has told me she loved her hubby, and had a good sex life with him. And no, I do not know if her orientation has anything to do with her divorce.

She no longer wishes to have sex with men.

(I do not know if she fantasizes about sex with men, though she does ask detailed questions about my adventures...)

I stated that there were extremes in each group. I know "political" Lesbians who will not alllow any kind of penatration, as a "protest" against male society, as well as Women who claim to become ill at the thought of sex with a man.

I am Catholic, and have known priests and nuns ( God help all of us who survived a Catholic High School education) who had domestic, loving, emotional, intimate NON-SEXUAL relationships with others of the same sex, AND the opposite sex, and I do not apply the label of Lesbian, gay, or heterosexual to these relationships.

And Ophelia, I do know the pain of being dropped from a social group because of my sexual orientation. I have argued this with other women before, and been called nasty things. Worse things by some men, though... I am accused by the "political" Lesbians of being a traitor, like Atheists treat Agnoistics, I guess, by not being willing to drop men.

Having a date leave you in a cafe because she found out you were "bi", and harming "women everywhere" by being, in her opinion, too promiscuous, and not a "true" Lesbian is hurtful and humiliating!!

If my employer ever found out about my lifestyle...

People who perform sex acts not out of desire, such as the movie poeple you mentioned are not part of this. This was about sexual wants and DESIRES.

Last, Ophelia, I think it IS possible that 98% of the "straight women" (I am NOT going to discuss men here, they are too weird) you know are either bi, bi-curious, or experimenting!

Going back to my hiding place now!!


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