This has been a very interesting thread...I think it's true that women do often make the 1st move, but in ways so subtle that often neither party is aware that it has been made...my friend OldFart once made the comment here (I hope I get this right!) that seduction is the act of persuing a woman till she catches you :halo: & I would have to agree with Lixy's stance that the double standard is not fair...but that has a lot to do with evolution & how we got here...it's also unfair to the guys that we're expected to take the lion's share of the rejection for making the 1st overt move (shy guys like me never really get used to that) ...having said that, I have to say not everyone feels that an agressive woman is a a bad thing...maybe because growing up in the South, I believe that the demure Southern Belle is a myth...Southern women tend to be very strong & secure in their roles in society, & know their way around the rules to achieve their goals...& I love em for it!

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