Two other thoughts...one...I have to admit that sometimes when my wife is just being 'accomodating' by fooling around because I want to and perhaps she isn't entirely in the mood..I like this position because it is kind of an in control position and she's a sport (not that it is bad for her, or it isn't a good mutual position either just those times too it is fun)...and the other one..so..do gals really masterbate in this position? The pictures on the site suggest so, but I guess really don't know. (And to my note on voyeuring..would you do it in front of him this way?)