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Old 07-23-2003, 10:37 PM
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I'm with you jennaflower......i'm not a american citizen...but support the US in their decision to go to war.....

And am extremely pleased that these two cruel bastards are no longer alive!! Now all they have to do is get Dad and i'll celebrate totally!!
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Old 07-24-2003, 06:35 AM
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I'm totaly behind THIS war..............although I think the govs shoulda just said we're going in to get Saddam out rather than trying to make the whole thing about WMD that may or may not be found.. I can say I do believe that there WERE some and that there were some weapons programs being worked on..... The only problem then being where do you end ?........there's plenty of countries with human rights abuse going on every day........maybe if a few more countries got involved it would all get sorted sooner and with less death !

I was pointing out that since the war started there hasn't been much "good" news and this is the closest we've got to ending sadman's hold on the country. Sometimes you do have to look hard at why certain pieces of news are given such a high profile. Everyday there's more reports of soldiers being killed, there's still confusion of the weapons stuff, in the UK we have Dr kelly's death, in the US there's the whole private Lynch fiasco. I do think one main reason for the huge coverage is the fact that it will bring a great relief to the people of Iraq who know they nolonger need to fear these evil men.

I'm just hoping now that the loss of his sons will force Sadman to come out of hiding and give himself up.........time will tell

Help help two long ass posts I'm turning into Lixy!!!!........on second thoughts don't help.....if I do turn into Lixy I'll be in the bathroom with plety of soap if I'm not out in 2 weeks...........wait longer !!!
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Old 07-24-2003, 07:07 AM
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I gotta go with Sharni and Jenna on this one.

What is the point of spending public funds on a trial???????
Fuck that! Kill the sick bastards is what I say!
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Old 07-24-2003, 08:39 AM
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I'm sure that it will suprise NOONE,that I'm glad that they are gone.My only regret is that they,didn't buy me a sniper rifle,& pay my expenses ,to do it myself!My father tought me,many things.that I remember.One of them was,that if you want to dance,you have to
pay the piper.Two WMDs are gone.Hopefully Saddam is next!
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P.S.I don't know,if it's true,but one of the son's may have commited suicide!
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Old 07-24-2003, 10:05 AM
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Old 07-24-2003, 10:15 AM
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Well they've released pictures of the bodies and that they're 100% sure that's it's them. If you really want tot see the pics they're on the CNN website..........and no doubt a few others too.
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Old 07-24-2003, 10:31 AM
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Scarecrow---I appreciate that.By way of explaination,a spotter
is someone,who looks thru a spotting scope or binoculars,&
lets you know where your hits are,usually when you are either
sighting in a scope or in a competition!People don't realise it,but
alot of time&ammunition,goes into sighting a weapon! Irish
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Old 07-24-2003, 10:35 AM
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It seems to me that we spend a lot of time saying that we have too much violence and murder in our society...and I am not certain that we send the right message to our kids about what is right and proper if we...

1. Put bounties on people's heads
2. Spend millions of dollars to assassinate a few people (these bombs don't come cheap)
3. Brag about our good work

(((thought I'd stir the pot again)))))
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Old 07-24-2003, 10:51 AM
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I never say we have too much violence in this country, I dont complain about something we are way too unwilling to do the right things to stop.
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Old 07-24-2003, 10:58 AM
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It seems to me that we spend a lot of time saying that we have too much violence and murder in our society...and I am not certain that we send the right message to our kids about what is right and proper if we...

1. Put bounties on people's heads
2. Spend millions of dollars to assassinate a few people (these bombs don't come cheap)
3. Brag about our good work

(((thought I'd stir the pot again)))))

I need to think about this a little more and then will likely put another reply in.

I agree that children need to be taught that violence is not the best solution to things, but I also believe that children need to be taught that they will be held responsible for their actions. I think that if message two is understood then it becomes clear that any form of unwarranted violence is not acceptable.

In the case of the two Hussein boys, well... I want the world and any little kid to undestand that if you grow up to treat people like they did you are going to have the sky falling in on you one day. They payed a fair price for what they did.

I'm not a violent person, I have never been in a real physical altercation in my life. But if given a rifle and the option of letting the Hussein brothers live, I would expend the two rounds very quickly and not feel at all bad about it.
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Old 07-24-2003, 01:09 PM
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I have had mixed feelings about this from the beginning.

While I support our troops and the decision to go to war, I couldn't help but feel that perhaps the boundries have been overstepped. Yes, we are a nation that is very powerful and it is our "duty" to insure that the world's people are treated right, however, at what expense did this occur?

The lose of life, the misconception that the USA is a big bully, the troubles here at home... the financial state of the American people with unemployment, high cost of living, terror in our own schools & communities, the list goes on....

I am glad that Saddam's sons were killed.. and a big part of me wish that it hadn't been so quick - that they could have suffered as they made others suffer - and as a person that makes me sad. The only reason that I am glad about it is because perhaps there may be an end to this in sight? I am not so sure.. I believe that it will continue as the USA has shown the world that we will continue as we are.... call for help, we will find SOME reason to run to that country with aid....... because there will be other Saddam's.....

But my underlying feelings are this.... what about here at home? What about the people of the USA? Perhaps I am a little selfish with that remark, I don't know, but I can't help but feel that way....
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Old 07-24-2003, 01:23 PM
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As far as the economy goes,the way that I look at it is,that it doesn't matter if you make a million$,a year,if someone takes it
away from you.I have always figured,that if you let someone,walk
on you,once.They will think that they can do it again.Therefore,
you,don't let them do it once.This is the REAL world,not the
world that we would like! Irish
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Old 07-24-2003, 08:07 PM
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Today, I looked at the pics without any feeling of pity or remorse... the amount of pain and suffering that they caused will never be erased.. but now we can rest assured that NO ONE on EARTH will ever be directly tortured by either one of them again...

alas tho... they are only 2 of many... I am a big believer that altho this earth will certainly always have "evil" it is our duty as human beings to rid the earth of as many of them as we can... on to the next one... hopefully Osama or Sadam....
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Old 07-24-2003, 09:37 PM
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In regards to the orgy of media coverage of the whole affair, I am against it. I do believe that showing the pictures to the Iraqi citizens was necessary. They had to have some degree of closure to the nightmare that has befallen them at the hands of these two thugs. They lived in such fear that many still cannot believe that they are gone.

But do I think that the news media in this country had to go to such lengths to dissect and exploit the coverage to up their ratings? No I do not. The restaint the media showed in not visibly drooling at showing the pictures over and over was feeble at best. Tabloid journalism at its worst.

That being said, I am a veteran. I know what our troops are going through over there. And I support them 1000%! There cause is just and their resolve is stronger than you can imagine. Saddam's regime HAD to be removed for the good of the Iraqi people, for the mid-east region and the world as a whole. This is a regime that has an undisputed history of attacking other countries, of supporting terrorism, of killing its own citizens, of mocking every peaceful attempt to make them comply with UN resolutions, and reveled in its own brutality.

I have been disheartened by peoples claims that no great show of evidence has been brought forth of Saddams WMDs. Was there ever any doubt of this? He used them on his own people! Every weapons inspector in Iraq knew he had them. They saw them. They watched as he repeatedly denied them access to the sites where they thought they were hidden. It doesn't take much to figure out what he was hiding. Then he expelled them from the country when they became too much of a bother to him.

President Clinton believed he had WMDs so strongly he ordered several missle strikes against Iraq. But now, it's unbelievable to Bush's opponants that Saddam had WMD because he said 16 words in a speech? Crimony!

Lest we not forget that this was not even the ONLY arguement for use of force. We must also remember that Saddam also brutalized his own people, threatened the security of the region, ignored UN mandate for 12 years, refused diplomatic measures, supported terrorism, stole food and medical supplies from his people that was meant for them under the food for oil program, used hospitals, mosques and schools as military storage and bunkers....and on and on.

Do not greive or be disheartened by the death of Uday and Qusay. They were murderers, rapists, torturers, kidnappers and sadists. They opened fire on our troops. They tried to kill us and we responded appropriately in response. I was appalled when I heard people on the news stating "well, we should have just captured them"! These are people that I guarantee you have never been shot at! That is not the way a firefight works. I know that each and every one of the troops there would have preferred a peacefull capture of them also. But Saddam's boys chose their path. Justice has been served.
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