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Am I the only one, or is anyone else a little turned off by the total glee with which American politicians and media are reporting on the deaths of Saddam's sons?

I personally think they sound like unsavory individuals...BUT...

1. I can't believe that the US actually put a price on these guys' heads. Talk about encouraging vigilantiasm. Next step is funding our own radical terrorist groups. WAIT!! We've already done that...

2. Who has the bad grace to celebrate the death of an individual? And waste simply HOURS of time on national TV etc. to do so.

Let's move on, guys....


What do y'all think?

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You mean you're still talking about iraq? Ho, hum, boring!

Actually I'm paying little attention to the media right now. Just me personally. But I would think my above statements would be true about the stereotypical 'short attention span' Americans...

Now how many of US (Americans or not) fit into that short attention span category, well that's subject to debate....

I havent watching any TV except for comedy central and Cartoon network ever since 9-11. i cant stand to see america gloating over a country that it clearly has complete dominance over. personally, ive never really been a huge america fan, but at 9-11 when it took the deaths of 5000 people to "bring a country together", i think that's kind of sad.

i didnt even know that saddam's sons were dead..i can understand the people of iraq celebrating their deaths, but anyone in america that has never endured the hardships of saddam's son's oppression should shut the hell up.

thank you for bringing this to my attention osuche, i almost watched TV today, but you saved me.

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Depends who's talking

As for the reporting of the death of Sadman's sons it has been a little over the top. I think is for a couple of reasons though

1. The people of Iraq have been tortured by these people for many years and they're now being told they can live without the fear of it being done to them again by these sick men.

2. The "war" has never really been over since the US declared that it was and everyday there are more reports of soldiers being killed in bomb attacks and sniper shootings. The death of these two VERY high ranking members of the oposing forces is a huge step in the right direct for coming to a final end to the war.

3. There's so much attention being placed on the lack of evidence of WMDs that the governments need something big to deflect interest away from that and so far this is the biggest piece of news they've had to do that.

A few people in Iraq and in the UK that have been tortured at the hands of sadman's sons have said they wish that they'd been captured rather than killed so that they could face a proper court to pay for their crimes.........although some of the people wanted them to be tortured in the same way they had.

....WAR.....what is it good for ?.........

well it's good for some of the people some of the time....... but most of the time it's no good to anyone.

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I for one am glad we rubbed them out. Two really bad guys....


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The whole Iraq affair has made me sick to the stomach, and this is just another example of how hideous the whole business has been.

Oh and Fussy, don't forget that in the UK they not only have to deflect attention from the WMD issue now, but also from the death of Dr Kelly resulting from it.

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Sorry... to disagree with (almost) everyone who has posted this far... (to clarify, I am not sorry for my opinion, just sorry that others here who share similar ones to my own tend to be afraid to post them because of the possible backlash)

but not only am I completely supportive of our troops that have remained in Iraq but am pleased that Saddam's sons are dead.. YES.. I said PLEASED... the world is a better place without them.

We are talking the bottom of the barrell guys.. men who TORTURE, rule, terrorize and rape people on a daily basis. We are talking complete arrogant egotistical fanatics..


I hope they enjoyed their E Ride to HELL...

Its ironic. Heuissain is being tried for the deaths of about 130 people. Bush should have on his conscious about 32,000 deaths so far. But he does'nt. As "my" president, he has failed miserably to represent my ideals.

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Wow, Kendall! Thanks for the walk down memory lane.

This war certainly has caused a lot of dissent in America, and globally.

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Saddam is being tried for a drop in the bucket of misery and death the B'aath Party caused Iraq,

but it's a nice clear-cut drop which should see him locked away forever.

It's a bit like Capone going down on Tax fraud.

Bush's foray into Iraq was ill conceived, but it was an attempt to do the right thing and

ensure Middle Eastern stability.

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A pretty good write-up on what crimes Saddam is believed to have been involved in is found ...

http://www.mediamonitors.net/mosaddeq1.html

The article is by Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed, "... a political analyst and human rights activist based in London. He is Director of the Institute for Policy Research & Development and a Researcher at the Islamic Human Rights Commission."

The article discusses a lot of the alleged offenses by Saddam, although, I doubt all. This was truly an evil man. Whether you were for the war or against it ... there really isn't much doubt that Saddam had really no socially redeeming value.

To be sure, there are good arguments to be made both ways about the war, it's conduct, and the aftermath. That discussion is good and doesn't have to be filled with hate.

I'm not really sure the war was really ill-conceived, although anticipation of the fanatical extremist reactions after the war wasn't as well planned for as it probably should have been. Of course post WWII in Germany also faced fanatical Nazis for a while although we seldom hear about that.

Anyway, I seem to recall that a major part of the US discussion on initiating the war, was that the United Nations had for years been paying lip service to sanctions and that if the UN was to mean anything, it needed to enforce the sanctions it advocated. The Security Council passed resolution after resolution that did nothing. They apparently didn't even care that most or a lot of the oil funds that were to provide food and aid to the people were being siphoned off ... to enrich Saddam and his cohorts and to pay corrupt UN officials and others who thought it was an easy way to bilk money.

I know that concern over WMD was part of the reason for the attack on Iraq, but it wasn't the only reason and I don't really think it was even THE major reason. And, I think we forget that the UN, France, Germany, Russia, the UK and many others also believed Iraq was working on obtaining these weapons. In fact, I don't recall anyone seriously doubting he at least had chemical and biological weapons. It wasn't just the US that thought this. Many still think Iraq was working on these, but sent the technology out of the country when the attack appeared intimate (Syria being mentioned most often as the recipient of these things).

I think it's fascinating to talk to troops returning from Iraq. We see the headlines of people dying, but, the men I've talked to said the vast majority of the country isn't that way (they say 75% plus) and that most of the people they've met are grateful for being liberated. Most recently, a guy I know returned for two weeks before returning to Iraq, and he noted he was surprised by US coverage of the war. It sounded to him like the coverage was about someplace else. There was nothing about the schools, hospitals, road and infrastructure improvements that had been made; the assumption of local governmental units of their responsibilities in governing their people, etc. No doubt he'll be glad to get home to his family and friends, but he was actually looking forward to the rest of his tour of duty there. He talked about visiting Ur on a weekend pass and seeing where Abraham is reported to have been born. Abraham is revered by Muslims, Christians and Jews. He hopes to get to Babylon before he finally comes home. He said it's a marvelous country filled with friendly and good people who are excited by their liberation. It's only one person's view, of course, but it sure wasn't the same as our media portrays.

well put but to add if sadam is quilty of any charges he will be put to death acording to arab law and i say stick his head in his gold toilet let a few iraqis do something on his head shoot him and be done with that scum. god bless the usa and the men and women who fought and fight for it!!!!!!

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thats what we have and thats why we are in america in the former iraq you would have been shot or tortured by their "president" the hussien trial is discusing ONE of the charges against him there are hundreds he was exterminating kurds like hitler did the jews, did you forget about that??????? MY president had the balls to do something after 9/11 maybe bill was YOUR president the cia called him and asked for an ok to shoot osama bin laden walking across a flat region they knew it was him!!!!!!!!! bill was playing golf wouldn't stop and give them an ok........thus 9/11 think about it !!!!!

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Count me in amongst those that think that this place is better off without those two. A price on their head? Good! There should be a price on the head of more people like that.

If you want to express an opinion I am more than willing to stand up and fight for you right to do that... when it comes to causing physical damage to another human being... well, in that case it is an eye for an eye... and those two got off easy with merely being killed... if I had it my way they would have been put through some of the "treatments" they so eagerly had employed on so many people.

Good riddance to them... and may they rot where they belong!

EDIT: I will agree, as well, that the way that the US media has dealt with this whole thing is also to be considered deplorable. Of course, my opinion of the US media has been in, for a long while now, the gutter... they choose to report that which will get ratings and ignore that which is truly important. Fear and gore get the attention of the public, but for the most part is truly not news... of course that can lead into the whole discussion about the general mind set of the American public that actually seems to enjoy watching these sensationalist reports about nothing... but that is best left for another time.

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