
06-22-2005, 09:06 PM
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What a bunch of crap!
Maybe that nutty guy I chatted to a few years ago on ICQ really did have the internet police at his door!
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06-22-2005, 09:17 PM
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I Run Shit =)
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I'm sure I'm not the only one feeling that they have no right to screw over what we're doing , I think it's ridiculous myself, soft core only O.o I mean come on we're grown adults here and we are being spoonfed crap like little kids
I'm not blaming you lil I know this goes higher than you but it's still not right
nex tthing ya know they are gonna outlaw foreplay, because some random kids might happen to wander into your house and walk into your bedroom
O.o this is Incubus255 by the way I have no idea why it logged me in under this one
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06-22-2005, 09:20 PM
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So, have these laws actually been passed? Or do we have to follow them regardless until they have been passed?
As for ideas, could we start like a yahoo group or something where we would need to register to partake? And if so, if the group is registered in another country, say Canada, could we post then?
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06-22-2005, 09:24 PM
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<~~~has been thinking...i believe i have only one picture that violates any of these rules ...i was just getting started 
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06-22-2005, 09:28 PM
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Tells it all
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Just send them directly to me :grin:
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06-22-2005, 10:20 PM
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record keeping
Now by no means am I a lawyer, but I have a fairly logical and analytical mind...so I decided to pour over some of the links to try and figure out proper wording and wiggle room with intent.
As for record keeping the main part of the law is under US Code: Title 18,2275:
(a) Whoever produces any book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape, or other matter which—
(1) contains one or more visual depictions made after November 1, 1990 of actual sexually explicit conduct; and
(2) is produced in whole or in part with materials which have been mailed or shipped in interstate or foreign commerce, or is shipped or transported or is intended for shipment or transportation in interstate or foreign commerce;
shall create and maintain individually identifiable records pertaining to every performer portrayed in such a visual depiction.
now the key to this statement is in my mind that both sections a(1) and a(2) must be true due to the AND between them for it to be required for you to keep records. Seeing as Pixies does not intend for any of it's content to be used in any form of commerce; interstate, forgein or otherwise it would not fall under the requirements. All other subsections in the record keepings requirement section REQUIRE section (A) to be true to apply. So as I read the law, in my amateur opinion mind you, would not require pixies to maintain record keeping.
I'll get to work on the other section next.
-Rukh75
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06-22-2005, 10:30 PM
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Booger Lama
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rukh75
Now by no means am I a lawyer, but I have a fairly logical and analytical mind...so I decided to pour over some of the links to try and figure out proper wording and wiggle room with intent.
-Rukh75
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one problem this is the law we are talking about you can throw logic out the window
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06-22-2005, 10:30 PM
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next hurdle...
Ok so I've briefly looked over our other outrage...the jeered US Code:Title 18,2256. This by my understanding is nothing more than a Definitions section as it applies to the terms under Chapter 110 - SEXUAL EXPLOITATION AND OTHER ABUSE OF CHILDREN. Section 2256 reads as follows for those not familiar:
2256. Definitions for chapter
Release date: 2004-08-06
For the purposes of this chapter, the term—
(1) “minor” means any person under the age of eighteen years;
(2) “sexually explicit conduct” means actual or simulated—
(A) sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex;
(B) bestiality;
(C) masturbation;
(D) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or
(E) lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person;
(3) “producing” means producing, directing, manufacturing, issuing, publishing, or advertising;
(4) “organization” means a person other than an individual;
(5) “visual depiction” includes undeveloped film and videotape, and data stored on computer disk or by electronic means which is capable of conversion into a visual image;
(6) “computer” has the meaning given that term in section 1030 of this title;
(7) “custody or control” includes temporary supervision over or responsibility for a minor whether legally or illegally obtained;
(8) “child pornography” means any visual depiction, including any photograph, film, video, picture, or computer or computer-generated image or picture, whether made or produced by electronic, mechanical, or other means, of sexually explicit conduct, where—
(A) the production of such visual depiction involves the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct;
(B) such visual depiction is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct;
(C) such visual depiction has been created, adapted, or modified to appear that an identifiable minor is engaging in sexually explicit conduct; or
(D) such visual depiction is advertised, promoted, presented, described, or distributed in such a manner that conveys the impression that the material is or contains a visual depiction of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and
(9) “identifiable minor”—
(A) means a person—
(i)
(I) who was a minor at the time the visual depiction was created, adapted, or modified; or
(II) whose image as a minor was used in creating, adapting, or modifying the visual depiction; and
(ii) who is recognizable as an actual person by the person’s face, likeness, or other distinguishing characteristic, such as a unique birthmark or other recognizable feature; and
(B) shall not be construed to require proof of the actual identity of the identifiable minor.
To me, once again NOT a lawyer, this is nothing more than a definitions page clarifing stances in Chapter 110 of US Code Title 18. This section defines and deals with sexual crimes against children. Now seeing as I addressed the records keeping requirement earlier, and that in no case does pixies contain contents of minors or intend to market its current or future content for commerce that none of the other sections that this definitions section would apply or effect us on the whole. I'll keep digging, but i hope this is making sense
-Rukh75
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06-22-2005, 10:33 PM
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Regardless of what you decipher the law to mean or as to the why's. The owners have set a policy and it will be enforced. I've watched these proceedings of people hashing it all out at several other sites experiencing this same new struggle. Ultimately it's the owner's necks in the noose and their policy will be followed in order to keep us safe and operating.
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06-22-2005, 09:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musicman
So, have these laws actually been passed? Or do we have to follow them regardless until they have been passed?
As for ideas, could we start like a yahoo group or something where we would need to register to partake? And if so, if the group is registered in another country, say Canada, could we post then?
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The federal law is effective as of 6/23. There is alread a yahoo group PixiesOrphans.
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